All, Thought I'd jump in on this. I've just bought the book. I love language or more specifically linguistics and the power (positive and negative) of words and I really like anything accelerated learning "ish" and memory techniques, so this is right up my street. I've always dabbled, never gone for something hell for leather. My goals are as follows: 1. Kick start my French again (I gave up at Uni.) I just seemed to get stuck, I hated speaking out loud. I could understand French when written down, yet I could never say what I wanted and how. My volume of vocab wasn't too crash hot either. I tend to go skiing in France every year and I'd like to be able to chat or understand X without all the fear etc. 2. Learn German. I've German friends who I see yearly. They always speak to me in English both in the UK and Germany.I want to speak to them in German. (I did German at school briefly). 3. Learn Latin, I don't know why but we have a subject area we call the "Classics" over here. It's split into either Greek or Latin. (I did it at school briefly again). I really want to get more into it. I'm sure language learning: using and acquisition is largely technique and belief based. I'd be really curious to remove my "I can't learn/speak/don't know X" - to I speak, French and Germany fluently. Has anybody used this methodology for Latin? Thanks W

* Originally posted by wilkies0106aw.

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  • When things cool down a bit, I'm planning on posting something about Latin. The real challenge is one of missing resources; there's no Google Images for latin, so you don't get original input there - which means that those first 625 words are going to be more challenging to remember and less fun to do. This would also be the time you'd start constructing and using mnemonics for Latin's version of gender, aka the 5 noun declensions.

    But once you have a bit of a base there, then you can use translated example sentences from your grammar book or from literature in the same way that you would in any other language. So strategically, you're going to be trying to get to THAT stage, where you deal with sentences, as soon as possible.

    * Originally posted by Gabriel Wyner.
  • Also worth noting: there do seem to be people studying Latin on

    * Originally posted by george.
  • once you have a bit of a base there, then you can use translated example sentences from your grammar book or from literature in the same way that you would in any other language.

    I've noticed that Latin textbooks seem to have less example sentences and more drills than modern language textbooks. Often the sentences are from literature rather than simple sentences which would be more useful.

    For example, if I'm trying to learn the noun cases, I want sentences like "The cat chases the dog" and "The dog chases the cat" which are easy to find pictures of or draw. Marcus Aurelius saying "It is not death that a man should fear, but he should fear never beginning to live" doesn't really cut it!

    * Originally posted by sf.
  • Something that is usually glossed over when discussing Latin or pre-Modern versions of Greek is that these languages evolved. For example, the Latin word "tempus" could mean "time" or "weather", but both meanings did not originate at the same time. Pre-Modern Greek is not a single language either; check e.g. the Wikipedia articles for Ancient Greek, Koine Greek (or Hellenistic Greek) and Medieval Greek (or Byzantine Greek). And anyone who has studied "Ancient Greek" can tell you that Homer's Greek (Archaic period) also differs from Plato's Greek (Classical period) etc.

    * Originally posted by Christophe.

  • Latin’s version of gender, aka the 5 noun declensions

    Oh no no no, honey. As somebody studying Latin, genders and declensions are seperate. There are 3 genders, masculine, feminine, and neuter. For example, agricola is in the first declension and it masculine, although most first declension nouns are feminine.

    A declension dictates its word ending, how the word should change forms for the various cases (of which there are 5, doubled when you count plural forms of each case). A gender dictates what adjective form to use with it.

    I realize that sounds pretty overwhelming! That's because it is, haha. However, as you start to study verbs, you'll learn nouns are fairly tame. For verbs you have 5 conjugation families (because the 3rd is split into 3rd and 3rd io), 3 moods, 2 voices, 6 tenses, 6 seperate endings depending on who is doing the action, and I'm 90% sure I'm forgetting something. There are participles. There are 4 principle parts per verb, and the 4th principle part is its adjective form, so it can be subjected to declining like noins. And I'm still forgetting something, I know it.

    If you're going to write a post concerning Latin, I recommend you get a Latin expert to help you, maybe a Latin teacher at your local school. Just to proofread and explain things as needed.

    * Originally posted by phillip.
  • Posting this here because for some reason I can't start a new topic in the Resources section.

    I just wanted to point to a good Latin pronunciation resource. Readings from Wheelock's Latin from Bolchazy-Carducci publishers contains recordings of all the paradigms and vocabulary list from Wheelock's popular latin textbook. The textbook doesn't, unfortunately, feature a list of minimal pairs, but the recordings are pretty useful for spelling system cards.

    I hope that helps someone out there!

    * Originally posted by sf.
  • Another thing I've noticed about Latin - I can't find a monolingual Latin dictionary anywhere. Obviously, I'm a long way from needing one, but it's a shame nonetheless. :(

    * Originally posted by sf.
  • Liberation Philology at it looks like a great application that appears to focus on vocab and grammar. While translation is not what we're after with Vocab, it may be valuable for languages like Latin, which, most impressively, it features, including other Ancient Languages (Ancient Greek; Sanskrit), 4 Medieval languages, and many Modern Languages including Esperanto! It's 3 pound / 4 Euro for Android, and those other devices. I'm sensitive about advertising 'competing' products inappropriately on the forum, but this appears to be somewhat distinct from Gabes work

    * Originally posted by Meher Baba.

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