Improve a language already studied.

Hi Everyone, I've already learned French in the past. I've have never been happy at the level I reached and was wondering if anyone has used FF to improve or fix their language.I would love to improve my French.I found learning the grammar wasn't to bad but the problem started when I tried to speak.I couldn't bring it all together in my head and so now what I'm left with is a kind of broken French made up of phrases I learned. Has anyone had this experience?And if so how could FF help? Hoboeire

* Originally posted by hoboeire.

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  • Hello.


    I would advise you to write a lot, using what you know, and submitting the writing to Lang-8 for correction. Anki is very good irrespective of your level as you can begin adding sentences which are relevant to you. You will eventually need to speak a lot, and can do this through iTalki. Honestly, its very dependent on what you like to do when you are already at an intermediate level, but you can certainly use this methodology at any level; just skip the sounds and picture words phase if you have already done that previously.

    * Originally posted by msmclaugh.
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  • Thank you.I'll give it a shot.



    * Originally posted by hoboeire.
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  • http://youtu.be/zOyKPLizTuo

    Gabriel made a 3min video on this subject



    * Originally posted by Meher Baba.
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  • Perfect. I've heard about this but now I'll try it.I thought reading was a way too but i guess not.
    Thanks

    Hoboeire

    * Originally posted by hoboeire.
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  • I encourage you to jump in and use the FF method, intermediate level is definitely covered in the book, why wait for feedback.
    Do try searching the forum though, as with many queries there's already been a lot of helpful support and definitely a lot of discussion for your line of enquiry. There are not so many topics that a manual search can't be made under the relevant sub forum, in fact I find a manual search of topics more effective (some of the time) and sometimes easier than wading through the search results of an opaque search term.

    * Originally posted by Meher Baba.
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  • Ya,so more input seems the way forward....we'll see.Thanks again for your advice

    Hoboeire

    * Originally posted by hoboeire.
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  • One of the cheapest ways to improve your language is by "imaginary conversations". You just imagine a situation or topic that you want to talk about and start trying to speak. You will quickly find out missing vocabulary, expressions and possibly grammar doubts. Of course you don't get corrections, but most people don't speak correctly anyway! The aim is to communicate.
    If you have trouble thinking about topics, you could buy a book of conversation starters from ProLingua by Nancy Zellman.. She has several books, the most recent is Ask and Task.
    it's in English, but just treat it as a topic list to be translated

    * Originally posted by James.
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  • There seems to be a massive disconnect between the written/comprehension part of a language and the spoken.Seems that there are two different parts to the brain being used.I took classes in France once and there were loads of Chinese and Japanese students who were able to write long essays in perfect French and understand the teacher no problem and who had been in the country for well over a year studying, but when it came to talking they weren't able to string two sentences together.This is what fascinates me and I come across this all the time. I've spent the last 7 years trying to figure out a good method for learning a foreign language.The 'right brain' approach will just take too long.So I'm still hoping that the FF method will be the one 'left brain' approach which will work,although I know that the FF uses some right side too.But it's mostly left and I'm not good with the left.

    Hoboeire

    * Originally posted by hoboeire.
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