Currently in the vocab training time frame with Russian and notice that although I know quite a few words I don't really understand cases for nouns, verbs, etc...eventually I will learn my first 1500 words and am wondering what my next step to understanding and speaking the language with relation to the many different cases should be.

* Originally posted by napoleon321.

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  • Hey, advanced Russian learner here.

    You have to learn the cases and verb conjugations to speak Russian, even at an elementary level. Have you learned the easy-to-picture 625 words yet? If you already have, you should learn the cases and other grammar forms next - before you worry about getting to 1500 words or even 1000. Those picturable words will give you enough to make the example sentences you need for basic grammar.

    Gabe Wyner recommends The Penguin Russian Course to learn your basic grammar (cases, conjugations, prepositions, aspect and all that). I learned my cases from that book long before I knew about Fluent Forever, and I can also say it's really great. It's cheap. It's got lots of example sentences. Everything is translated well and the grammar is explained very succinctly and clearly. It's also in an order that allows you to start as a complete beginner and work your way up to an Intermediate grammar level.

    The Fluent Forever book goes into detail about how to learn grammar forms like cases and conjugations using Anki. You should check that out. You basically should memorize all the regular case forms for masculine, feminine, neuter and plural - both for nouns and adjectives. Do this using Anki cards with example sentences and blanks (the base form of the word in parenthesis).

    Then there are some irregular nouns (no adjectives thank GOD!). You can use mnemonics to help you recognize patterns and only memorize one example with Anki. For example you can make one card to memorize that угол (angle) is угла in the genitive case - the "o" is a fill vowel that disappears. Lots of other nouns follow that irregular pattern so you can use a mnemonic (I used digging a scoop out of it with a shovel) to remember what other nouns also follow that pattern (пень - пня for "tree stump" among others).

    The conjugations are easier, although there are also plenty of irregular forms you need to wade through. Also learn the perfective and imperfective form EVERY TIME YOU LEARN A VERB. Seriously. It will save you a lot of grief. And make separate sets of cards for them too. I just put both forms on the back of my cards for a while and it really screwed me up. You will not speak Russian well if you're mixing up perfective and imperfective verbs or can remember one but not the other.

    If you haven't learned the 625 words yet, then I recommend buying the word list. I got the one for spanish and it made them go super fast. In any case, take a look at the FF book if you haven't already. And buy the Penguin grammar book!

    * Originally posted by taomustbeturtle.
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  • Apologies if this is the wrong area to add a question. I'm new to the forum, new to Anki and in the midst of learning Russian. I was wondering if there is a card that you can use where you can put the word in english, have the word spoken in Russian via a Forvo sound byte, and then have an area where you can type your answer from listening to the pronunciation. I am wanting to do this with the 625 word list but couldn't find the appropriate card. Thank you for the other tips and will start implementing them.

    * Originally posted by Judy.
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  • You can make this type of card. There's a tutorial here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tYObQ3ocrw

    I'm really not in favor of putting English on the cards, but there are some folks on this forum who disagree and in the end you should do what's comfortable for you.

    * Originally posted by taomustbeturtle.
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  • Thank you and I have studied that video. I like that method but what I want to add is a pronunciation clip to card (front side) so I could listen to the word before attempting to type it in. I can not figure out how to add the pronunciation clip onto that card. I have read/heard about english on the cards and still trying to determine what would be the best cards for me. I'm liking the idea of hearing the sound of the word and then repeating the spelling from listening....again, I cannot seem to create it. Please send any other suggestions.

    * Originally posted by Judy.
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  • Adding sound files to the front of your card is pretty simple to do. As long as you have the file downloaded on your computer, you can click and drag it into the field in your Anki deck. Or you can just hit the "add media" button (the paperclip like for attachments in e-mails).

    This video walks you through it:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsXf5N4jAEY



    * Originally posted by taomustbeturtle.
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  • Thank you so much for your help. This is starting to make a little more sense and I've really appreciated the help.



    * Originally posted by Judy.
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